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  1. Nick Ienatsch (journalist og instruktør i en mannsalder) sin eminente artikkel om morsom og trygg veikjøring - The Pace - er oppdatert og enda mere aktuell. Den inneholder også flotte illustrasjoner som du kan kikke på her http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/16/become-a-better-street-rider-with-the-pace-motorcycle-safety-and-riding-skills/

    Stradagruppen forsøker å bruke bl.a. denne tankegangen som bidrag til at deltagerne på Desmodromenes turer kjører trygt og samtidig har det morsomt  B)





    As a moto-journalist since 1984, I’ve witnessed motorcycle and tire technology soar each year … but there hasn’t been a commensurate decrease in crashes. And in 1986 I got scared: Senator John Danforth’s legislation to limit horsepower had me imagining our sport decimated by politicians, and the vision made me sick. Luckily, I was in a position to do something about it: I wrote The Pace.

    And every weekend my group of friends, most of whom had won at least a class championship at Willow Springs International Raceway, rode The Pace. These were seriously talented riders, but like you, we each had to work Monday morning. Our pace evolved from the dual desires to enjoy a modern sportbike and survive a potentially deadly sport in a dangerous world. It was the best of times, and riders around the planet read and adopted The Pace.

    So here we are more than 20 years later. The Pace’s message continues to ring true in many ways but I want to review and strengthen the best of the message and make amendments to the worst. Let’s call it Pace 2.0.

     

    The Good
    The separation of street and track has to be stressed in riding groups. One leader, changing as frequently as desired. Passing within the group only after a wave-by. Keeping an eye on your friends because you’re riding with your friends, not against your friends. Your goal is not money and a trophy, it’s to get to breakfast every Sunday, tour Europe at a fun pace, enjoy a modern motorcycle on great roads, ride with your friends.

    Riding against your friends is what a racetrack is for. Go to a track day. Enter a club race. Reserve the street for riding with your friends at a pace that allows you a margin of error for the unexpected, because not only is street riding much less predictable than track riding, but there are many more immovable objects to hit should things go wrong.

    Limiting straightaway speed makes sense from so many angles. Radar traps usually hide on the straights and going fast in a straight line is just so … simple. Rushing corner entrances on the street continues to lead the list of causes of single-bike crashes, and riders who do it in right-hand corners with oncoming traffic die.

    Give yourself a straight-line speed limit when you’re out sport riding. There are a few states that have mandatory jail time for speeds over 100 mph, so setting your own limits might save major hassle. Want to go seriously fast all day? Visit your local racetrack … Bonneville … Maxton … 
El Mirage … the dragstrip. On the street, know that lots of speed all the time will eventually catch you out.


    I’m a fan of small, constant corrections. Talk about all this stuff in your group. Talk about mistakes you make or see. What makes you uncomfortable? Be tactful, but don’t put up with idiots in your group. Reduce their idiocy or move them or yourself out. This sport is edgy enough; don’t hang around with riders making bad decisions.

    The Pace considers body position, and discussion of this circles back to outright speed in an environment that is basically uncontrolled, the opposite of what is found on a racetrack. Roadracers hang off their bikes to run less lean angle and street riders can do that, too, except that I’ve seen riders hang off their bikes on the street and then increase their speed until they’re running “fun” lean angles. Because of hanging off, these “fun” lean angles can be at extremely high speeds. When a surprise happens, the extra speed is a killer. Dragging a knee on the street is insane and a clear indication of mistaking public road for the track. The track is the place with an ambulance 60 seconds away … room to run off … tech inspection … corner workers … rules governing direction … no oncoming traffic. Do I sound preachy? I hope so.

    So, The Pace talks about not hanging off, first as a speed control, and second to appear less guilty to officers of the law. I shift my body to the inside of the bike, moving my head a bit to load the inside footpeg to help the bike turn, saving the big hang-off move for unexpected gravel/hazards or a surprisingly tight corner. Relaxed and mellow and innocent, sir.

    All that said, I have two friends who hang off in the corners and have the discipline to run sane speeds. Can an article teach judgment and discipline? No, hospitals teach that.

     

     

    The Bad
    In The Pace I wrote that you might not see a brake light flash all day. This is misleading. Readers could interpret this to mean that using the brakes is wrong, and I should have been much clearer. Yes, riding up Angeles Crest Highway with almost no corners below 50 mph, seeing the brake light would be uncommon because we weren’t hammering the throttle on the straights. But if you went with us to tight-and-twisty Stunt Road in Malibu, you’d see lots of brake lights.

    Brakes. Yes. To not only control your speed, but your steering geometry, too. That is the biggest and most important clarification in The Pace 2.0: The use of brakes. You go to the brakes anytime you need your speed controlled more than is possible by simply closing the throttle. The faster you ride, the more brakes you will use, all things (like lean angle) being equal. If you’re in the habit of slamming on the brakes at every corner entrance, you are definitely not riding The Pace and that big speed and abruptness will eventually hurt you. If you use a little brake pressure to trail-brake (brake while turning) into the occasional corner, you’ve got the right idea.


    Pace 2.0 Updates
    The Pace 2.0 wants you to add this to your riding portfolio: “I can go to the brakes any time during my ride.” Yes, even leaned over in your favorite corner. In my book, Sport Riding Techniques, on fastersafer.com and at Yamaha Champions Riding School, I give each tire 100 points of total grip. If you’re leaned over and using 98 points (98 percent of the front tire’s grip is going to cornering forces), you have two points left for braking. Most riders aren’t subtle enough with initial braking to be able to use the remaining two points, so this subtlety is something Pace 2.0 wants you to master. Know that your ability to squeeze on one or two points of brakes is the difference between the bike running wide across the centerline because of no brake application (no speed or geometry control), or the bike steering into the corner and delivering you safely to breakfast.

    For those who say their bike stands up in the corner when they brake, this is almost always a result of too much initial lever force, which bottoms the fork and flattens the tire (and its contact patch) too abruptly, upsetting the bike. This sport is more subtle than these riders understand.

    Same with initial throttle. Make your first application of power so smoothly that the suspension loads and the tire loads, and the contact patch expands…smoothly. More rubber, more grip.

    Traction loss is rarely a simple case of using too many total points; far more often it is a case of points being added too quickly. Read that sentence again, please. Quit grabbing, stabbing, hammering—and quit “flicking” the bike into the corner. Add braking, throttle and steering points in a linear manner so when you do creep up to the tire’s maximum, it has a chance to gently slide and warn you about its limit.


    In the second article, on The Pace, my views on trail-braking started to evolve because racing was teaching me so much. For speed on the track or safety on the street, you must be able to use some brake pressure at lean angle. On the street in corners you brake for, do your best to “leave the brake light on” at corner turn-in so you are taking advantage of slightly better steering geometry provided by fork compression.

    The Pace 2.0 needs you to understand the formula Radius = mph (and mph = Radius), and not just in theory. You need to feel it. Find an empty parking lot and ride in a circle at a given lean angle, one that you’re comfortable with. Pick this lean angle, and then gently accelerate while doing your best to hold that very same lean angle. Then do it again and gently decelerate, again holding the same lean angle. Increase your speed and your radius increases, slow your speed and your radius decreases. Steady throttle holds it. After this exercise, you’ll realize how insane it is that some new riders are being taught to increase throttle and push on the inside handlebar if they enter a corner too fast.

    Getting your brain in gear before your bike goes into gear is a big part of 2.0. Call it being in the moment or having a plan or focusing. Most important is clearing your head and asking: What’s next? That two-word question, repeated often during your ride, might go further to reduce crashes than anything except better brake use. What’s next? Write it on your triple clamp, mutter it out loud, whisper it every five seconds, maybe yell it out to your friends just before the faceshields snap shut.

    Riders of longer, heavier bikes should master both front and rear brakes because, in an emergency, each brake does about 50 percent of the work. I’ve headed Harley-Davidson’s “Back to the Track” program for years and can tell you firsthand that the best stops and speed control on a cruiser/dresser/bobber utilize both front and rear brakes in roughly equal measure.

    Perhaps the biggest myth lies in the sportbike world where riders have heard “never touch the rear brake.” The advice should be “never stab the rear brake.” Yes, in an emergency situation, it might only provide a small percentage of the overall stopping power due to a sportbike’s weight transfer, but this sport is all about small percentages. If you miss the car in your lane by one foot, you’ve missed the car, right? Add rear-brake finesse to your riding portfolio.

     

    Twenty Years
    We’ve all evolved over the last 20 years, but bikes have evolved more quickly than most riders. What I believe and teach (and do on every ride or drive) really counts when the pace is up or the grip is down.

    Let me close 2.0 with this: Most of us don’t approach our riding improvement seriously enough. Get relentlessly focused on your riding, don’t put up with riding errors, don’t think “good enough” is: When you add speed to mistakes, you don’t just hit the ball into the net. Our riding mistakes not only hurt bodies and wallets, but our sport, as well. Consider giving this article to your friends, or adopting it for your club. More important: Carefully evaluate the riding advice out there and seriously study how you ride your pace. It may help save our sport.

    Riding well is the most wonderful feeling in the world, the reason we’re all hooked, and that’s what The Pace celebrates. You’re riding quick and controlled. Your friends file through a tight, left-right-left with the fluidity of a rushing stream. Your mirror is filled with friends riding your pace, using their eyes, brakes, throttle and body to ride with you. You arrive together. You and our sport are healthy tomorrow.

    The best.

     

  2. Ja, det kommer :P

     

    Alt må legges inn manuelt og det innebærer så mange klikk samt noe IT/admin/opplæring som vi dessverre ikke har fått stokket ennå. Den som venter på noe godt osv.... , men likevel... beklager forsinkelsen.

  3. Ta dette med en klype internett-salt...

     

    Kan gjøres med 'impact gun'/muttertrekker eller ved å ha sykkelen i gir og sikre bakhjulet.

     

    Muligens må det varme til for å løsne Loctite'n som mutteren vel er sikret med (?) og manualen oppgir Loctite 5 (hva nå det egentlig er.. rød?)

     

    S4RS (med 999-motor) oppgir 270 Nm

     

    Inntil noen retter min info kan dette være et utgangspunkt, men for all del få det verifisert av et verksted!!!

     

     

    Jeg har også sett folk låse fast tannhjulet på starteren mot neste tannhjul med en mynt, men da tror jeg vi beveger oss litt unna trygg praksis...

  4. Såpass omfattende endringer som større motor kan sikert friste noen, men samtidig skremme andre...

     

    Ser ut som Showa gaffel? Hadde S'ene det?

     

    Du konkurrerer med selgere av kurrante sykler som ikke trenger å forklare hvorfor/hvordan modifikasjonene er gjort.

     

    Frykter at dette er litt motbakke, men hvis prisen settes lavt er alt mulig.

     

    Hvilken nyere sykkel er det du har lyst på?

  5. Har ikke gjort det, men har tenkt i retning clip ons og sportsligfisering av tidlig modell.

     

    Jeg tror clip ons med 8-10 cm 'risere' kan bli bra, men det er sannsynlig at svingradiusen blir endel begrenset.

     

    Rizoma sine styrer er 72 cm brede. Totalbredden på MS er generøse 98,5 cm (-2014) og 100 cm (2015) inklusive de ~5 cm som speil/håndbeskyttere stikker utenfor selve styret. Ducati-styret ser dermed ut til å være ca 90 cm bredt. Altså, mye å knappe inn ved bruk av Rizoma. Man kan jo uansett valg av styre droppe håndbeskytterne, sette på smalere speil og således vinne ~10 cm - i tillegg til det du selv er inne på med å flytte alt innover.

     

    Sammenlignet med Monster-styrer har Rizoma mere 'sweep-back' (bakover-vinkel). 18 grader originalt mot Rizoma ~28 grader. En ofte velkommen forbedring av vinkelen man får i håndleddet, men igjen kanskje begrensende på svingradiusen. Nå vet ikke jeg vinkelen på MS-styrene, men man kan tenke seg at mindre bredde og mere sweep-back fordrer reduksjon av svingradiusen.

  6. Det er ikke godt å si om det er vesentlige forskjeller på de tre - bortsett fra at større er bedre (?).

     

    Man kan sjelden vite om det blir noe ekstra som må gjøres på en brukt sykkel, men det er sikkert klokt å ha litt i reserve - både penger, tålmodighet og aksept for at brukt er brukt. Som nevnt er ferske dekk og belter et pluss.

     

    Forsikring er et tema som av og til overrasker ferske kjøpere. Kanskje greit å undersøke det først...

     

    Når det klør i kjøre- og kjøpehånden, så er det viktig å være 'fornuftig' - likevel: Ducati er jo engasjerende og av og til må man bare tråkke til og satse på at det meste blir tilfredsstillende selv om det ikke er 100% perfekt.

  7. Velkommen om bord :)

     

    Begge skal vel være kurrante sykler. Servicer fulgt, god pleie, oljeskift helst litt oftere enn hovedservice er viktige saker. Det er få, hvis noen, superbikes til salgs med så høy km-stand at det er skummelt. Pluss med ferske dekk, ferske belter, fersk hydraulisk væske, overhalte demperkomponenter hvis over 30' km.

     

    Noen konkrete sykler å linke til?

  8. For å finne ut mer konkret "hvor skoen trykker" så kan man reise seg litt opp, flytte seg litt frem/tilbake, tape fast tankvesken frem/tilbake og ekperimentere med vindskjermer.

     

    Muligens er tanken på nye Monster så høy at dette blir trøblete...

     

    Alle mods har en konsekvens, også bruk av tankveske. Høyere skjerm gir endret luftstrøm, men kan være vellykket. Finnes det høyere sete til denne?

     

    På min Monster har jeg brukt Zero Gravity Sport Touring skjerm og Corse skjerm. Mer beskyttelse av ST, men litt støyende turbulens oppunder hjelmen. Corse mindre beskyttelse, men jevnere luftstrøm som dermed bråker mindre. Jeg kan få det skremmende stille ved å stå oppreist, men det er en dårlig deal. Mine konklusjoner er nesten garantert å ikke være gyldige for nestemann - alle er forskjellige i den grad at det er unike løsninger for alt og alle.

     

    Man må bare forsøke å finne ut av det. Finnes det en løsning gir det en god følelse - hvis ikke må man nesten bare tåle ulempene som oppstår... 

     

    Rumpetaske, Kriega sekk, tailbag uaktuelt? 

  9. Fra forumtråd i mars 2014:

    Man har jo lest mengder av stoff om hva etanol og/eller vannet som bindes i etanol gjør med komponenter. Det dreier seg først og fremst om plasttankene som kan ekspandere og deformeres når de absorberer vann. I USA har det vært så mange tilfeller at det hele til slutt ble behandlet ved et massesøksmål mot Ducati - på vegne av inntil 50.000 potensielt berørte eiere. Er du like nerd som meg kan du lese her http://www.girardgibbs.com/ducati/   EDIT 2024: ser ut som den linken er kaputt.

    Foreløpig har jeg ikke hørt om tilfeller i Norge og jeg har antatt at vi inntil videre ikke tilbys/tvinges til å bruke etanolholdig bensin i betydelig grad. Det er antagelig også stor forskjell på om man fyller E5 eller E10. Det dukket opp et spørsmål på Facebook om vinterlagring og tips - "full eller tom tank" var et av temaene - da fikk jeg en ny påminnelse om at jeg noen år har vært nysgjerrig på hva syklene egentlig får i seg. (forøvrig er det nærmeste jeg kommer et godt svar på spørsmålet: full metalltank / tom plasttank ELLER i hvert fall IKKE etanolholdig bensin i plasttanker)

    Jeg sendte et spørsmål til de bensinstasjonkjedene jeg vet om og kan delvis berolige Desmodromer med at Statoil på østlandet har 5% etanol i sin bensintype "95" og St1 har 5% i sin 95 E5. BEST får visstnok sin bensin fra Statoil og antas å selge samme kvaliteter. Esso, Shell og UnoX svarte at de ikke blander etanol i sin bensin.

     

     

    Oppdatert:

    En besøkende forumleser har meldt om nye svar fra bensinleverandørene pr desember 2014.

     

    • Esso - ikke etanol i hverken 95 eller 98 oktan
    • Shell - nå E5 i 95 oktan, men fremdeles ikke i 98 oktan
    • Statoil/Miles - E5 i 95 oktan på østlandet(ellers ikke). E0 i 98 oktan, men denne fases ut
    • 1-2-3 og Best - som Statoil
    • YX/Unox - som Statoil
    • St1 - E5 i 95 oktan

    Tilsynelatende stadig vanskeligere å finne ren bensin. Det skal visstnok være et forslag ute på høring for å øke fra reelle E3,5 til E5,5 fra 1. juni i år.

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